Langan, are an integral part of the, the work that that Randy’s doing on the, on the dolphins. Dr. Atkisson, our director, brought programs, I mean, one of the things that was amazing that he as a, as a resident, he developed a program while he was at St. Louis looking at penguins and marine mammals down at Punta San Juan in Peru, particularly built around Humboldt Penguins and essentially started a program in terms of veterinary assessment and disease surveillance in that population, which has grown into a very credible and very productive conservation program. You know, bringing the local population and getting them involved in population of wildlife in that area that they have never had. And, and it was building on a program that, that started with folks out of the WCS decades ago. But that program and that partnership that’s been developed has really taken on a much more significant conservation component under, under Dr. Mike. And now it’s become one of our flagship conservation programs. So the answer to the story is, it, it’s been an evolution and probably compared to, compared to medicine, there’s always been zoo veterinary medicine going on here during my tenure.
