The Great Eight Heart Project, I, for me, it really started all the way back when I was at Lincoln Park and I was, I was named as the veterinary advisor to the Gorilla, SSP, I think as the first veterinary advisor. And we’ve had some, some other associates, other veterinary advisors, and, and now it’s a group of four of us that, that share that responsibility. And one of the, one of the first things that I, that I did, because it’s data that’s more available, you, you wish you knew more about what’s going on with these animals in real time. But data that was available retrospectively was looking at necropsy reports, pathology reports on why animals died. And we recognized a, a couple of things. One is that gorillas, the most old adult and older adult gorillas died of cardiovascular disease. And if you tell that to a physician, they say, yeah, I get that, you know, heart attacks are a big deal in people. Cardiovascular disease is a, a really important cause of death.
