And then eventually that grew into a program where they actually hired an individual to help do the pathology service. But, you know, because we were trying to cobble things together, he had multiple responsibilities that probably each could have used a full-time person. And two of those were down at University of Chicago, and I was 10 miles up the road in Lincoln Park. So when we sent an animal down in a box to have a postmortem exam done, we would hear back from it much later or maybe weeks later, which really isn’t the service that you need. You, especially if there’s a group health concern, you need to know about that as soon as possible. And so we were, we at Lincoln Park were kind of looking for other opportunities. My predecessor, my at Brookfield Zoo, my colleague from across town saw some of the, he also recognized the importance of pathology, having had a lot of experience at the National Zoo where they had a full-time pathologist on the zoo staff and probably the first place to have one. And he recognized, he recognized the advantages, but saw some of the challenges I had and, and had no interest in jumping into that mix.