That was interesting because I wasn’t, I wasn’t looking to go anywhere. I was happy at Lincoln Park, but one of the things, pathology, finding out why animals died, doing necropsies or animal autopsies is a critically important part of zoo medicine. That was part of my training at St. Louis. And we had a, we had a pathology program at Lincoln Park that existed when I got there using volunteers, physician MD pathologist, as well as veterinary pathologists from various institutions, from hospitals, from industry, from the medical examiner’s office. And they would come in, you know, a, a few times a week and do necropsies and it worked after a fashion, as you might imagine, the reporting and the complexity was a little uneven, but as, as times changed, particularly people that were, that were working on government research grants that were more generous, had more time, and they could, you know, take tissues and process ’em on their own dime, as those things started to dry up, people dropped out of the program, then it became more of a commitment for the ones that were left and then another would drop off. Anyway, by the early nineties, we had recognized the need to start paying for that service. And we were doing that through University of Chicago, where, which had been kind of the home base for the volunteer pathologists. We were providing funds through University of Chicago.