And then I either push or watch for any opportunity to, to take that first step. The associate veterinarian, assistant veterinarian is a perfect example of that. Dr. Barbara Thomas at the time now, Dr. Barbara Baker worked with us as, as an extern during vet school, had obviously a passion for zoo medicine and once she graduated, she did some, some work at the Bronx Zoo and, and was, was very interested in getting a position. And she had the ability and, and the desire that I can, you know, if I can, if I can find somebody to help put me up and help support me, I could do this on a voluntary basis. And so I said, well, if you can be an associate veterinarian without me having to get the park district to find the money to pay you, which I knew they wouldn’t, I said, absolutely. And so she came and, and spent a few years with us as an associate veterinarian. And then, you know, as we demonstrated the utility of that we’re able to offer first her and then others funding from, you know, I was able to convince people within the park district that this was a necessary position to, to get on the books.
