Yeah, very, very much so. Probably more much, well more so at London certainly, but in North Carolina that’s beginning to happen. Where, where we’ve, we’ve developed particular techniques of, particularly of anti-poaching techniques, which are now being asked for are now being now being asked for by a number of governments. But at London, particularly requests from the Middle East and North Africa. So over the years that I was in London, we actually worked with 20, about 20 different countries, mostly around the Mediterranean and through, through the, the, the Middle East and the far east with governments asking us to either in, in several cases completely design their new zoos, several cases, Saudi Arabia particularly I, I, I remember, oh gosh, this would go back to the late seventies, early eighties where Saudi was very envious of the conservation programs in Oman on, particularly with the introduction, the reintroduction of Arabian Orx. And they, they desperately wanted to join the club, but they had no facility, they had no camp de breeding facilities that were owned by government. There were a few private ones, they’d no designated national parks. And so they asked for assistance, you know, from a team of people which included ZSL side of London to help them firstly sort of build up their captive stocks and then help identify staff and run their national park.
