And EDF is largely concerned with, with things like climate change, with energy, with water quality, not so much with species as such. And what we’re seeing now, and EDF just as one example, well Wildlife fund as well, others Nature Conservancy and so on now have not five, they’re not 5 0 1 c threes, but they are, they have a pol if you like, a political lobbying wing, which are being fairly well funded now by those who, you know, folks who can afford to. So in terms of, of addressing the much heavier duty lobbying of things like the energy lobby, marine exploration lobby. And so, so you’re seeing a far more effective political input from the conservation world than you ever saw even 10 or 15 years ago. So I think that is, that’s one thing. And the other, and, and the third thing, which I think a lot of people don’t realize is that actually a lot of the positive changes are coming from industry itself and driven by two things. One, that a lot of, a lot of parts of the industry are beginning to understand that actually it makes commercial sense to do things in a more environmentally sensitive way, but also because of public opinion. So a lot of energy companies, I mean, for example, in, in EEDF in North Carolina, we work a lot with regional electricity boards, smaller, they, they’re not generating power, but they’re selling power and they, because they’re dealing again with a local audience who are buying the power from ’em, they, they’re listening much more to their customers.
