So in the future, what issues would you like to see Zoos address Much more partnership with other outside in partnership, obviously with other zoos where it’s appropriate, but I’ve been a strong believer in, in zoo directors, making sure that they’re also involved in, in the governance or in some other way, partnership with institutions around, there could be other biological institutions, arts institutions who can, who can help them understand what their, what, what they running an institution are there for, why, what is the purpose of that?