Hmm, I, I don’t think attitudes visitors have, have not changed in the proportions who are interested in support the zoo world versus those who are to one degree or another not happy about zoos. We talked about those extremists, there are a few of those, but it, they have not increased. Now there’s a middle, there’s a middle group of, of visitors who I think largely because of other forms of information and education are much better informed about the natural world than they were, you know, even 10 or 15 years ago. And that, that’s obviously because of the different forms of media that they’re now exposed to. So there is a greater, i I don’t, I think we’ve got a similar spread of visitors, you know, liking to disliking, coming to a zoo. But what we’ve now got in the middle are a lot of people who are better informed, scientifically better informed, more concerned about environment and animal biodiversity, loss, loss of, of species than, than was ever the case in the past. So the attitude, the different attitudes is that middle group of people who want, are better informed, want to be better informed, want their kids to be better informed and their expectation of standards within zoos in terms of keeping animals, whether it be standards of exhibits, standards of interpretation, or whether above all standards of welfare. And I think that’s where the difference is.
