So even, even if their resources are relatively meager. And the other, of course the other thing is that smaller zoos are some of the best institutions that dealing with local conservation issues. A lot of people when they talk about zoo conservation mean gorillas in Africa or wild dogs in, you know, wild dogs in India or something like that. Whereas actually a lot of the smaller institutions can do great things with smaller animals locally and with local institute, not just zoo with land trusts, with local natural history societies and so on. So there’s, there’s a lot more they can do. A lot of it has to do with creating relationships, of course with those, with those institutions.