The relationship between the department, which was then we are now under the Department of Cultural Resources, NA, natural and Cultural Resources, a lot of the environmental, particularly the sort of the water, water quality, air quality, that’s the thing, has gone into another, another division now. But they, that department, what I found was needed to do a lot more with their sister departments. I could see opportunities to, for agriculture and Environment department and Department of Commerce and, and some of these others to do, to work much more closely together in regional tourism, for example, in building a whole tourism package, much of which was connected with the natural things around them. So there was that, there was the whole sort of field input. We have see the, the, the n czu not only owns the state owned, well state and private owned, the society owns a lot of it, the immediate 2000 plus acres. It also owns 700 more acres in the region, which are what I would call sites of special scientific interest. There are, we, we own, for example, the largest longleaf pine forest in North Carolina. Re these are remnant remnant forests that used to exist before they were all cut down for the Tarheel state tar production.
