Well, we had both retired now, but we had a, a extremely good head of horticulture and a and a a, a really good head of the design department. North Carolina Zoo is very, it, it it’s endowed with an extremely skilled group of design and construct and talking about exhibit, detailed exhibit construction style. There are about 15 of them that do nothing else but this, and the folks over the years, and particularly when I started, were came out an arts background. They came out of both fine arts and, and, and you know, the sort of constructive arts if you like, and the haw and, and there was also very strong support within the other senior star, both the animal staff at the time. And it, it was a collection of particular individuals that felt nothing new about art in a zoo, of course, but particularly felt that in this major part, large park that various forms of art would be part, particularly where they enhance the exhibit that they were next to. And in fact, nearly, nearly all the artwork is either, it’s either related to the exhibit they’re near or goes back to something we were saying earlier, or is very much attempting to interpret a broader relationship between species in general. So it’s, it’s artwork, which is talking about nature as a whole. We also had, well, what also happened was it does, it’s not on the books right now, but the state in building the first new exhibit actually appropriated about 10% of the money for a new exhibit into artwork associated with that exhibit.
