And and luckily at the time, both the, you know, the senior staff and the, the secretary and the assistant secretary, the guy, the assistant secretary was actually a lady, a woman who was responsible for the zoo and the museums in North Carolina. Both not zoologists, not biologists, but very, very broad minded base and hunt. Jim Hunt. And basically said to me, okay, we built it, we built it, this wonderful facility. Now tell us what we need to do with it.
