It was a new, new division within ZSL. The idea being that ultimately money we earned on the consultancies we’ve just talked about would be plowed back into conservation. But in the meantime, we almost completely rebuilt the, the Ungulate housing at Whipsnade on the back of what we were earning off these Middle Eastern contracts. So what I wanted to see was Whipsnade built up as the national collection with an, the society owned Waid. It doesn’t own Regents Park and that there should be less emphasis on the big stuff at, at Regents Park, but actually create a rather interesting, you know, with covered walkways between the different, and there were a lot of exhibits and still are a lot of exhibits that could be converted quite easily into a, a more specialist, small mammal birds, reptiles and so on. But there was huge resistance to that from the scientific fellowship. Now, now as I, as I think I mentioned to you earlier, I, I had become a scientific fellow before I became an employee at ZSL on the back of a a a a zoology BSC. And so you could become a scientific fellow for, you know, without any particularly strong credentials.
