Well, with, with a lot of difficulty, I mean yes, yes. Soli Zuckerman was very good at, because he was a great networker, and particularly within his wealthy Jewish community, Jewish friends, they, the claw and the cottons in the exhibits named after those guys that, you know, wealthy businessmen contributed significantly, very significantly to some of the new building that did take place at London. But what happened in the 18 six, well, I think twice in the 19th century, the government actually offered the Zoological Society of London. Now the Zoo, zoo Society of London was founded in 1826 and was very much supported by private individuals to begin with. And then in the mid 18 hundreds did, did run into some financial problems, was offered help by the government. And this was at the time that the Royal Botanical Gardens at q the Great Natural History Museum, the science museum in, in South Kensy, new London, all of which were getting substantial government funding. But the zoo, the zoo turned around and said, no, thank you. We want to remain independent.