But we got to a point where we were very confident that we could keep an animal just lightly sed sedated enough that it wasn’t, I mean, still sort of awake, but, but not, certainly not aggressive or frightened. And, and you can imagine some of the looks that we got driving up, you know, the outskirts of London through some of those busy streets and stopping at a stoplight with, with a gorilla looking at them out of the window. And then we, and, and then we used to drive other, you know, hoofstock, we would take in horse trailers and remember, you know, moving things like camels around. If you had a camel in a horse trailer with its head over the back, it was a great way to get through London traffic because nobody, no car coming up behind you would go anywhere near a camel about to sort of spit at you over the back of the horse trailer so that it can, can imagine today what the, the sort of comments we’d get about that sort of thing. You talk about the foods and, and exotic diets are something that you’re have dealt with extensively.