How? Well, interestingly, the, probably the first one was my main teacher in the little village primary school I went to from age about five to eight, where I remember to this day remember one very sort of tyrant style teacher who was very highly disciplined and needed that discipline from the kids. But that taught me, I mean, it was a tough, it was tough love, really. So that, that partic Ms. Howe, I remember Ms. Howe was, was a toughie, but extremely good at sort of instilling a discipline into those kids at St. Paul’s. We had, we had some amazing, I mean St Paul’s, the Cathedral choir school was only 38 boys. It was 30 boys in the choir and eight probationers who waited a year in training to join the main choir. And, and we had 11 teachers to 38 boys, simply because we sang something like 1517 services a week and had the practices to go with them. So a typical day would be getting up at six o’clock in the morning, breakfast at six 30, walk on the bomb sites, six 30 to seven. First practice of the day is seven to eight.
