And so, you know, from a very early age at a time and of course security, children’s security, nobody really worried about it. So my brother and I have one full brother to a half, brother and sister as well, could roam at will. And there was a stream, a creek, not far away, lots of woodland. So the interest in wild things, surroundings, you know, wild surroundings, animals in general, plants as well came at an early age. So that, that was the sort of beginning. And then we used to be, brother and I used to be farmed out literally to these family hill farms in, in North Wales for Easter. Much of summer, not so much at Christmas because the 12th century church that father was rector of, it was an absolutely gorgeous Flintstone built church. Started in the 12th century, was extremely popular for baptisms and weddings.
