So they had cottonmouth, and rattlesnakes, and copperheads, and then a few Asiatic vipers. And just, I don’t know, at one point, Armstrong said, “Could you pick up that copperhead?” And I said, “Are you crazy?” He said, “No.” He says, “I’ll do it.” So he reaches in, picks up the copperhead. I said, “Okay.” So he said, “Well, tomorrow you got to pick up the cottonmouth.” So the next day, same thing. reached in, picked up the cottonmouth. And we did this for about a week, just back and forth, back and forth. And finally, we’d kind of exhausted what we were doing with these three species. And we went to the next exhibit and it was, there were tree vipers. And I said, “I’m not gonna mess with these things.” So that was the end of it. But when I told Murphy about this and actually Steve Monfort read this article and he called me, I remember he called me and he said, “Are you crazy, did you really do that kind of stuff back then?” I said, “Yeah.” And Armstrong with nuts, just as crazy as I was because we would go in at the time, we had a full-time vet at that point, Jim Wright.
