Well, Doug Myers was the director at the time. And then he had a park manager who I think they turned out calling that person a director as well. But he was the executive director of the whole organization. So yeah, several meetings with Doug Myers. I wasn’t in the C-level suite, you know, as far as regular weekly meetings with all of them. But I was in enough meetings where I had a lot of face time with Doug. And then, of course, paying a lot of attention to the wild animal park director at that time as well, because again, very unique institutions in how they operate. You know, separate budgets, operating budgets, so challenges for both.
