(Janet chuckles) But he didn’t like Marlin’s showbiz. He was too fancy-pants. So there wasn’t as much of a rivalry. No, they probably never spoke to each other during it. We just knew that he was sneaking out. He was like a kid smoking cigarettes. (Janet laughs) When I was doing the history of Lincoln Park Zoo, on page 12 of the book, we reference your father because he had two young female gorillas and he was very much trying to get Marlin to get his gorilla, then Bushman. Ah, Bushman.