Zoos do go through highs and lows. That’s a interesting situation. Now when I retired on December 31st, 1989, I made a vow never to look over anyone’s shoulder, any of my successors’ shoulder. I did say if I can be of help at any time, let me know. But otherwise I’m outta here. I mean, the zoo is still in my heart, still is today. And six days later I was on safari, because I decided to make the change after I climbed Kilimanjaro and turned 50 on the mountain. I decided to make the change, make a passage, as I’ve been told, from life in the world of zoos to life in safari, because I really loved Africa, and I loved sharing Africa with people.