That’s probably about right, ’75, ’76. Mm-hmm, okay. Dick took over the clinical path, which made sense to me, you know, ’cause it was, he was a board certified pathologist. He had the pathology, he took over the clinical path. So then that turned into a very productive collaboration that went on for over 30 years, and I think we did fair amount of work. Now you’ve held some different titles at National Zoo, but I’m not sure if they’re the same, they’re just different, you know, title changes and one is Head Office of Animal Health, from ’75 to ’79, another is a Chief Department of Animal Health, ’79 to ’88, another is Assistant Director for Animal Health, ’79 to ’88.