Short-statured. was that — I don’t know. He was — I just went down for information, ’cause I traveled around to talk to John, people that had giant pandas, and I wanted to see what Mexico’s doing, and I also went to Regents Park and met with John Knight. They had a female giant panda that was dying of a chronic digestive thing. And so I, John and I consulted a lot over pandas, and he’s the one that brought the male panda to National for that breeding attempt. Talking about the National Zoo, again, more of your experiences there without giant pandas, you indicated that the National Zoo had certainly a depth within the medical area.
