The giant pandas in Mexico, one time I flew down there to help them with a baby that had just been born. They had one born, and by the time I got there, it died. And so I had to do the autopsy on the giant panda cub. Next time they flew me down to do a look at the male who was sick, and so I took Lindsey Phillips with me, and that time there was another Director, Maria Elena, I think was her name, fiery little, short, cute Mexican gal, that was, you know, a little live wire, and she came out and said, “Well now you know, I want you to anesthetize the panda, I want you to use isoflurane, I want you to do this and this …” and so I just turned around and said, “Are you telling me how to anesthetize the panda?” “Yes”, I said, “No, that’s not gonna work.” I said, “You’ve invited me down to anesthetize your panda. I’m gonna do it the way I anesthetized pandas, and if you don’t want me to do that, I can get right back on the plane.” So we anesthetized the pandas, and pandas had generalized lymphadenopathy, the male did, which is enlarged lymph nodes everywhere. And one of my jobs at Hopkins is I was treating lymphoma in dogs and cats. We had a big thing where we were having people that had dogs with lymphoma we were treating with chemotherapy and getting some survivals, and you know, some dogs living a couple years on treatment. So I was fairly used to the doing that.
