So I stopped one of them. I said, “You know, I’m from Galveston and I’m interested in herpetology.” “Oh, well you need to talk to so-and-so, Bill Millstadt, he’s our curator, junior curator of herpetology.” So they took me to Bill Millstadt, who’s became quite an active herpetologist in his years. And he talked to me. I made a friend there. And those kids, the museum would check them out, talk to them. You know, you have groupies and everything. You have groupies for jazz bands. You have people hanging out. Zoos have groupies. And those kids are gonna be there, and they’re either gonna force their way in, or get into trouble or you you put them to work.