I hired Tom Foos, and he had terrible credentials, terrible credentials. At the Philadelphia Zoo, they, I’ll tell you what, they were very critical of him, and his wife for some reason. I always found his wife pretty nice. Tom Foos was a very difficult guy to work with. He was very introverted. He was monomaniacal on what he was doing. And his main deal, what we were trying to get him along, ’cause he was excellent at it, the coefficient of inbreeding. The inbreeding of coefficient with founder stock and so forth.