By the time I got to Oklahoma City, he was in line to be speaker of the house, which he did become. I mean, Jim was very helpful. We got several million, I think we got about eight or $10 million from these two grants. But they had to be matched locally. And so then I went out and got, and the city was very cooperative. They wanted something good at the zoo. It was too much controversy there for years. My concept of any zoo, the more space you got, the better.
