He gave me ideas and all that. But everybody who he had worked for just was so, “You don’t want to hire that guy.” And finally, it was a double-edged sword, I think. Mertens was very good with reptiles. He really was excellent. And he was good with people, to a point. He had his problems. I finally hired him. And he did some wonderful work there, wonderful work. I think I made him, yeah, I made him a general, when Frank Thompson left, made him a general curator.
