You know all these people, give me a name.” Well, I had made a talk at some Texas Parks thing not a year or two earlier, about zoo signs. And the guy who had organized that was a guy named Charles Campbell, and he was the director of parks in a little city called Midland. Bush spent some time, Bush the second, spent some time there, much to the discredited of the city. But anyway, he, he was a very well organized park director. I was impressed with him. And so I told my friend Charles Haas of the the park board, I said, “Oh, there’s a guy in Midland, and he’s interested in education.” Of that talk I gave on signs, he had sign. He had a little zoo, you know, in his, one of the parks. And he put signs up. I sent him the copy.