I think it was in the (stammers)… At one time in the early ’40s, there were only, I think seven gorillas in the United States. One was named Susie and was at the Cincinnati Zoo. And the keeper slept, I’ve heard, slept with that gorilla. And I mean there’s just an awful lot of questions. I’ve never been able to get them answered. I think the guy’s name was Stephan, the director there in those days, but he’d died.