Well, I have to tell you, where I grew up. I was born in Galveston. But in two years we moved to a little, kind of a hick town in North Texas, north of Dallas called Sherman, Texas. And we grew up there. I did. For some reason, it can’t be genetic ’cause neither of my parents were particularly interested in natural history. But they supported me, very important. As a kid, I mean I would collect, we called them grass snakes, but they were really something else. Lion snakes in the books.