Steve Dobbs was invited to attend, I guess it was a vacation in Guatemala. I went along as general curator, more or less in charge of the operation. And a third person, I don’t remember the guy’s name, but a friend of Steve’s went along. We went to Guatemala. We stayed at, can’t remember the man’s name, by an American attache in the Guatemala embassy. We were assigned a trip to Guatemala down on the Pacific Coast. Went down there by car. On the trip down, we stopped by a swamp and collected.