It can be working as a vet, it can be working with animal control. And I had to keeper at the National Zoo who left keeping to work animal control. And in Washington, DC, which was a much harder job than being a zoo keeper at National Zoo, but she loved it and yeah, and if you have a passion, you can always find a way to do it. I mean, the toughest people to talk to, and I would always pass ’em off to reptile and bird people, ’cause they are special people. (chuckles) I mean, I just don’t have the, because most people had their own collections and nobody I knew was who was going to keep a black bear in their backyard to get experience. But yeah, but a degree is almost, a degree and experience working with animals, because once you work with animals, you’re just, I mean, some people think you’re just, it’s cuddly there, animals are just dependent on you. You’re not out there, you know, mucking out stalls most of the time. You’re, you know, it’s physical labor. They just see the touchy-feely part of it.