And I just said, “Well, you know, I don’t really think that I’m the right person for this job.” End of interview, didn’t even get me a taxi going home. I had to find my own way out. I mean, that was, turns out somebody later said, “You know, they really didn’t like that woman from Milwaukee.” (chuckles) And I went, “Well that’s fine, ’cause I didn’t want that job.” And they ended up hiring none of the people they interviewed that day. I think Larry Sorel got that job at that time.