Well, I had dealt with it a little bit at the National Zoo. I mean, I knew Sue at PETA before she retired and Jeanie after she took over her job. So PETA never got involved in the elephant controversy in Milwaukee. I mean, they called and I explained what was going on and they were fine. No, the training took place after the whole thing was over. (Elizabeth chuckles) So I had never had any formal training in handling these situations before then.
