Speidel had a house on the zoo grounds and when Boese became director, he had to live on the zoo grounds. And Boese and Schulz said, well, you know, just pay $400 a month, well, people knew how much rent was for a three bedroom house in Milwaukee and Wauwatosa, and that was the end. I mean, there was no, Boese had to move out. And then Charles Wickenhauser was hired as director of the zoo when Boese left. And this was, so this was 1990, and I had started in ’87. So, I mean, it was chaos for the first three years that I was there. So while you were there under all of this. I think I became, I think, they must’ve been organized under Chuck.
