They couldn’t tell their animals apart. I wasn’t used to that. That was difficult to get used to. But no, Ken Kawata was not a popular general curator, so I think the fact that I wasn’t Ken and I was coming around, helped, helped me. Everybody thought Ken, that Dr. Boese had hired Ken to be the hatchet man to come fire all these people. He had that reputation. So no, I don’t remember any difficulties. And the assistant director, Bruce Beehler, I’d worked with Bruce at the National Zoo, ’cause he was one of the intern, he did a residency, not a, it was before residencies, but he had worked with Mitch at the hospital for six months or whatever before he got his job in Milwaukee.
