It depends, and up until 2005 they had their own employ, the Zoo Society. And I think that’s what they decided. They just didn’t want to worry about all that. So since I was moving into it, they left me in that kinda halfway in between position. So I did some development stuff when I was zoo director. By going out and making the pitches, but I would go with the fundraising person that they had hired. Later it was just me and I would then take usually one of the co-chairs because I can sell the zoo, but my salary did not go and affect the same level of the people we were talking to. So you needed somebody at this level to say, you know, we put in this amount.