And if you make it fun for them. And it’s not like something I have to do. It’s like somewhere I can go and feel important. That I’m helping do something and it’s fun. It’s not too long, it’s not stretched out. But you know, we’ve had some people come through our volunteer group that have actually gone on to work in other zoos too. So part of it has to be inbuilt that you have to have a passion for it once you get in it, but I’m not sure that answered your question at all. (laughs) During your tenure, the relationships of zoos and aquariums with animal dealers changed dramatically during your career.