(Jan laughs) Yeah, I mean you can. I would guess it was no different than guys getting together and saying. Dang, I’m having this problem with staffing and doing this or that. So we talked the normal same things. Only once do I remember, and that was more at a board level because there weren’t a lot of women on the board either and it took a long time to get a woman to be president. Now, you know, there’s several. I was on the executive committee and I know that we were gonna get together and have our little meeting. Well the guys came out, we took a break.