Well I was encouraged to apply. Chuck said I should apply. But I wanted to keep growing in the business. ‘Cause I was getting, by that time I was getting involved in some of the… With the record keeping and looking forward to what else AZA was doing, and other zoos, and I got to know a lot of mentoring came from Lincoln Park Zoo and the St. Louis Zoo. Because they were our closest “big zoos”. And so, you know, I wanted to be one of the big boys. You know, and grow a little bit and get involved more.
