Well they usually, in say a fairly good-size zoo, they’re not the ones day to day taking care of the animals. The keepers are doing that, so they gotta be able to take care of the keepers. They’ve got to be the, and there they need to be good people persons. I mean, they have to again, be able to work with their staff who, but usually, in most case, at least in our situation, most of our curators had been keepers prior to that. And so they also had the knowledge of at least some of the species, maybe not all of them that they were in charge of, but at least some of the species. And so knowing the ins and outs of the animals, of the husbandry of the animal, was also just as important.