My husband ran the National Aviary in Pittsburgh. As a matter of fact, he’s the one that got the designation for the National Aviary in Pittsburgh. That was his vision, that was his idea, and I’m very proud of that. So the national Aviary in Pittsburgh, he was the executive director there for 15 years. And of course I was at the zoo, and we had seven children. And we’re not rich, so we didn’t have a nanny or anything like that. So we really balanced that. It was a balancing act.