Because I walked the grounds at least three times a week. And so I was out there walking around, and so people get very comfortable with talking to the leader, because you’re just out there. And everybody called me Barbara, nobody called me Dr. Baker. The only people called me Dr. Baker I knew didn’t know me, because nobody called me Dr. Baker, everybody called me Barbara. Except when we’re doing public presentations or something. But it’s so important to get out there and to watch the animals, to learn the animals, to see what’s working, what’s not working. I love talking to visitors, walking around, talking to visitors. And a lot of times I’d be in a t-shirt, and nobody knew who I was, just walking around in blue jeans and a t-shirt and talking to the visitors and getting their, or just listening to ’em, listening to visitors talk about animal behavior.
