I mean this is like all the pieces, parts are here. You’re in a city that has 14 Fortune 500 companies, foundations, everything you could think of, and yet nobody was taking it and running with it. And so I was kind of perplexed about that. But anyway, Chuck Wiggenhauser, who was the director at the time, then moved on to the Milwaukee Zoo, and in 1990, ’89 he resigned and moved on. And then Louise Brown called me. I was at Riverbanks finishing up my MBA, hadn’t quite finished it by then, finishing up my MBA. And she called me and said, I want you to interview for this position. So I said, okay.
