And that was actually nothing to do with any of those incidents I’ve spoken about, but we had a volunteer who was really causing a lot of problems, who actually went on to set up animal rights NGO in Singapore. But he felt that we were treating our chimpanzees quite badly. And he enlisted the help of a guy called Carl Aman, who is an African push me photographer. And so we had a lot of kind of like aggressive interviews with the press to the extent where, as I said, we got about four of us to take a course in how to handle aggressive interviews. Because up to that point in time, actually I’d never had an aggressive interview in my life. It wasn’t so much a local presses, foreign press that…
