Yeah, I think so. I was executive director up until that time. Executive director was a position I had. Okay, so I started off as director in 1980. And then Charlie Schroeder comes along. We bring him out as a consultant in about whenever, ’86 or something. And he said, “You should change Bernard’s title to executive director.” And Dr. Ong said, “Why?” He said, “Because you’ve got a board of directors. All your board members are directors.
