And then obviously zoologists and horticulturists and stuff. So then put this group together and they’re kind of like gonna brainstorm and they brainstorm. Each of them in a group and then randomly would go and discuss and these different projects. And then basically get them to come up with new ideas. And if you get enough lateral and disparate points of view, sometimes you get rubbish, but sometimes you just get something which you never thought about before, but now sounds so logical. And that’s kind of like how we would generate ideas and it’s getting that guy who’s not a zoologist who’s never worked in a zoo before to just give you a totally different point of view, totally different perspective. And I found those were the kind of really useful people to have, especially our lighting guy. I mean, he’s very good at…
