The PhD was in social behavior of the long-tailed macaques in Singapore. And I’d done that because my father had died a year before. And so I wanted to be back, spent some time with my mother. So I chose macaques because there’s a big colony in Singapore, wild colonies. And I was with a group of primatologists who were based out of Cambridge and Bristol, Bristol being a guy called Crook and Cambridge being a guy called David Chivers, who’s still around. She was basically siamang and gibbons. So we had people who were looking at different types of primates. But when I went back to see my mother with this place at the university, she said, “Well, there’s a zoo that just opened in Singapore, and they’re advertising for staff and they want an administrative officer.” And she said, “Actually, I know the chairman.
